[Update: 2 Videos] Irrefutable Proof Obama's Own District Was Home to 11 Rezko Foreclosed Properties

Update [2008-3-12 17:34:41 by susanhu]: (TWO VIDEOS: The second is a must-see from the NBC affiliate in Chicago.) RezkoWatch: "This video is always a valuable—and vivid—reminder of the living conditions in Obama's district:"

Eleven Rezmar buildings were in the state Senate district Obama represented between 1996 and 2004. Many of the buildings ended up in foreclosure, with tenants living in squalid conditions, the Sun-Times reported last year. In one instance, Rezko's company left tenants without heat for five weeks. Obama said he was unaware of problems with the buildings and minimized the legal work he'd done. -- From the Chicago Sun-Times via District 299 The Chicago Schools Blog.

The senator says he had no indication of any problems with Rezko when he accepted thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from him. -- From ABC News via Truthteller's story here, "It Is "Possible" Obama Was Aware of Rezko's Financial and Legal Woes."

 Obama said in the interview Monday that he was unaware of the scope of properties owned by Rezmar or the problems surrounding them. He said none of the affected residents personally sought his help and that aides at his state Senate district office did not recall any inquiries. Still, he said it was "possible" that during his tenure in the legislature that a constituent may have written or called his office "saying, 'We're in a building, and we're unhappy with the service here.'"

Such problems, he said, would normally be brought to the attention of an alderman or the city's Housing Department. "Had I known that there were buildings that were in deteriorating or poor condition, that certainly would have given me pause. But I didn't know," Obama said.  -- From the Chicago Tribune.

"I didn't know," he says? It'd give you "pause"? Oh really?  

Explain these maps from the Chicago Sun-Times that show the "Illinois Senate district Barack Obama represented from 1997 to 2002 -- the area between the lines below -- included 11 Rezmar buildings." (To see the originals -- at full size -- go to the Sun-Times page.)

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ELEVEN buildings in your district, and you didn't know about the problems?  Or was it that, given a choice between helping your constituents or taking "fixer" money from Tony Rezko, you chose the latter?  

Here's what your constituents put up with before those buildings were foreclosed and shut down (leaving your constituents without a roof over their heads):  

From Truthteller's exceptional work in his story here, "It Is "Possible" Obama Was Aware of Rezko's Financial and Legal Woes":

[L]et us listen to constituents of Obama who resided in Rezko's tenements.  Here is Joann Larkins, a resident of a dilapidated Rezko structure just eight blocks from the palatial mansion Obama jointly purchased with Rezko:

Mrs Larkins, 51, lives just seven city blocks away, in a district where posters advertise "dirt cheap properties" and "foreclosure advice". She moved there almost a decade ago, taking a subsidised apartment with her 20-year-old daughter and one-year-old grandson in a building that had fallen into neglect when run by Mr Rezko.

The family boiled water on the stove and draped plastic sheeting across the windows in an effort to keep warm during the city's bitter winters, as the heating was not working. Rubbish piled up uncollected and repeated requests for basic repairs were ignored.

"It was a terrible place to live: there were a lot of drug dealers and people fighting and getting shot," Mrs Larkins, a widow who receives invalidity benefit, told The Sunday Telegraph.

"The owners never took any interest in the place; they just wanted the rent money. We had to call the city just to get the garbage collected."

The 44-apartment complex was one of 30 low-income housing projects run by Mr Rezko and his partners with funds from the city during the 1990s. By early this decade, many were boarded up as bills and mortgage payments went unpaid, but Mr Rezko moved into the fast-food business, while tenants like the Larkins struggled with the legacy of his management.

Janet Jenkins, a neighbor of another Rezko property in Obama's state Senate district, also witnessed squalor and crime:

Janet Jenkins witnessed the deterioration of one building that Rezmar co-developed with the Chicago Urban League a dozen years ago. Today, the 12-unit building at 62nd Street and Rhodes is boarded up. And she's glad.

"Oh, absolutely,'' said Jenkins, 57, who lives a few doors south of the building. "That building has been a problem to this block for years.

"We had numerous complaints. Drug selling. Prostitution. The whole nine yards. Filthy. Deplorable. Rats. Mice. Roaches. Urine. Feces. Name it.''

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READ ALL of Truthteller's story here:  "It Is "Possible" Obama Was Aware of Rezko's Financial and Legal Woes."

His story includes a screenshot of a letter that Barack Obama wrote on behalf of Tony Rezko, and much more.



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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (2.00 / 16)

I.Did.Not.Know.That

Famous last words.


by susanhu on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:06:33 PM EST

Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (2.00 / 5)

Yes. Anyone whose ever been to Chicago knows it's a very small town and it's simply unthinkable that a State Senator could be unaware of the condition of eleven buildings in his district.

This is certainly an insightful and convincing post. Of what, I'm not sure. But very, very convincing.


by BlueinColorado on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:13:57 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (2.00 / 6)

Ofcourse you were working for the Slum lord and now it falls in your district


by indus on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:21:55 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (2.00 / 8)

Yeah, it's like a no brainer. Except to Obama that is. As long as his fixer made a profit I am sure that's all he cared about. Just keep those campaign contributions rolling in folks.


by Fleaflicker on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:37:52 PM EST
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I would love to have the Thoazine (none / 0)

concession around here when Obama finally wraps it up.  
It will take many years to repair the damage done to the Democratic party by Hillary, Ferarro, Susan Hu, Taylor Marsh and all the win-at-any cost brigade.  You people are not fit to be called Democrats.  You are not Democrats. You are shriekers and shit flingers.
by ReillyDiefenbach on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 12:03:16 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (2.00 / 8)

He DOES brag about being a community organizer.  A community organizer would be in a little more touch with, you know, the community.


by cmugirl90 on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:48:00 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (none / 0)

Oooooh!
Ouch!
by johnnygunn on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 09:24:56 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (2.00 / 2)

There is an interview here
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/12 4171,CST-NWS-obama05.article

where he claims he only got $50 or $60k for Rezko, but now he admits that it was more like $150-160k

Does anyone know the address of the house he bought? There are a few web sites where you can plug in an address and get the prices properties in that neighborhood are selling at.

It looks like it would normally cost much more than $1.6 million dollars..

One has to look at the difference between the selling price and the free market value to get the bribe value, if any...


Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Without a REAL committment to it, we WON'T win in November.
by architek on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 11:47:29 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (none / 0)

The sellers are apparently also in on this conspiracy:

The couple who sold Barack Obama his Chicago home said the Illinois senator's $1.65 million bid ``was the best offer'' and they didn't cut their asking price because a campaign donor bought their adjacent land

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=2 0601103&sid=a_9sOMpy91Js&refer=u s


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by jaiwithani on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 10:50:56 AM EST
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Q: Community organized for whom? (2.00 / 1)

A: For low-income housing slumlords.


We can no longer afford to worship the god of hate or bow before the altar of retaliation. Martin Luther King Jr.
by fairleft on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 09:49:35 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (none / 0)

WHen was Barack Obama employed by Reszko?


by BlueinColorado on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:15:48 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (2.00 / 4)

1998, or one year after many building did not contain heat for an entire winter.  He also wrote letters on Rezko's behalf on state Senate stationary that same year.

Obama is Rezko's state Senator, not the state Senator of African-Americans on the south side of Chicago.


by truthteller2007 on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:20:20 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (none / 0)

1998, or one year after many building did not contain heat for an entire winter.

Link?


by BlueinColorado on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:41:34 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (2.00 / 1)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/taylor-mar sh/obamas-faustian-bargain-_b_82863.html


by indus on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 07:23:26 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (2.00 / 1)

Oy. Taylor Marsh. What is it about you Reszko floggers that you can never express yourselves succinctly. I guess when you're trying to spin that much innuendo into a scandal, it takes a lot of "what ifs...." and "it is possible that...."s and "there is no proof that Obama did this, but THERE IS ALSO NO PROOF THAT HE DIDN"T!!!...."s.

I can't imagine those things aren't as exhausting to write as they are to read. But I guess raw hatred is a great motivator. Or desperation. Like a rat in a cage. You've all convinced yourselves Obama is evil so you work very, very hard to prove it. To yourselves

Anyway, I saw no evidence in Ms Marsh's Rube Goldberg smear job that Obama collected a paycheck from Tony Reszko like you said.

Maybe, since you find those endless rants interesting, you could dig out the relevant (okay, I giggled a little when I typed that) nugget that proves your point.


by BlueinColorado on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 07:34:17 PM EST
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Obama did work for Rezmar (2.00 / 1)

You sincerely think you'll get away with denying that? Rezko's firm was a client for Obama's law firm, and Obama did work for Rezko's firm and/or Rezko. That's admitted by Obama and well-established:

But Obama's ties with Rezko go beyond those two real estate sales and the political support, the Sun-Times found. Obama was an attorney with a small Chicago law firm -- Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland -- that helped Rezmar get more than $43 million in government funding to rehab 15 of their 30 apartment buildings for the poor.

Just what legal work -- and how much -- Obama did on those deals is unknown. His campaign staff acknowledges he worked on some of them. But the Rezmar-related work amounted to just five hours over the six years it said Obama was affiliated with the law firm, the staff said in an e-mail in February.

Obama, however, was associated with the firm for more than nine years, his staff acknowledged Sunday in an e-mail response to questions submitted March 14 by the Sun-Times. They didn't say what deals he worked on -- or how much work he did.

From Barack Obama and his Slumlord Patron
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/35382 9,CST-NWS-rez23.article


We can no longer afford to worship the god of hate or bow before the altar of retaliation. Martin Luther King Jr.
by fairleft on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 09:56:43 PM EST
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Re: Obama did work for Rezmar (2.00 / 1)

So... he didn't work for Rezko, he worked for a law firm that worked for a company that  Rezko was a partner in, and as a lawyer did some work on f that firm's cases for that company.

A little more tenuous than "worked for a slumlord", isn't it?

I know those little details, also known as facts, make the story less juicy, the scandal less shocking, and thus less fun for you people. So sorry.

Seriously, are any of you old enough to remember the '90s? Do you not remember Rush and Novak and all the rest screeching about "Rose Law Firm billing records!!!"? Do you not see what you've become?


by BlueinColorado on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 10:18:10 PM EST
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Rezmar and Rezko were Obama clients (2.00 / 0)

in lawyer talk. He worked for them.


We can no longer afford to worship the god of hate or bow before the altar of retaliation. Martin Luther King Jr.
by fairleft on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 10:43:17 PM EST
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Re: Rezmar and Rezko were Obama clients (none / 0)

So Jim MacDougall and Whitewater Development Corporation and Madison Guaranty were clients of Hillary Clinton's. '

In lawyer talk.

Hillary Clinton worked for a con artist embezzler who stole millions in tax payer money.

In lawyer talk.

In your talk.

In the kind of sleazy innuendo you blind fools are determined to traffick in.

Boy, do you need to read your own tagline a few hundred times.


by BlueinColorado on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 10:47:25 PM EST
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Re: Rezmar and Rezko were Obama clients (2.00 / 1)

You're being disingenuous. Obama worked for Rezko and Rezmar on privatized low-income housing deals, and this should've had helped him to be significantly more knowledgable and aware than the average state senator about Rezmar/Rezko housing projects, after he became a state senator.


We can no longer afford to worship the god of hate or bow before the altar of retaliation. Martin Luther King Jr.
by fairleft on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 10:57:42 PM EST
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Re: Rezmar and Rezko were Obama clients (2.00 / 0)

Ah, you're calling for a willful suspension of all benefit of the doubt?

Hillary should have known Jim MacDougall was a crook.

Hillary should have known her cattle futures deal was shady.

Hillary should have known her brother was taking $400,000 from a convicted drug dealer to lobby her husband for a pardon.

Hillary should know who the donors to her husband's library are, and make their names public so we know there is no conflict of interest.

Hillary should have known Gennifer Flowers was blackmailing her husband into giving her a state job.

Hillary should have known that her husband was using state troopers to hit on bimbos.

Hillary should have known her husband was playing hide-the-cigar in the Oval Office.

How far do you people really want to go with this? and before you start screaming: Which of those things didn't happen, and which do you think won't come up if she wins the nomination? I voted for him twice, supported him through impeachment and beyond, and donated to both her Senatorial campaigns, and will vote for her if she gets the nomination (she's lost my financial support forever) but, as you say, we can't be disingenuous.


by BlueinColorado on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 11:07:10 PM EST
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Re: Rezmar and Rezko were Obama clients (none / 0)

Okay, no response, but how could there be? I'll take that as implied agreement with what I wrote.


We can no longer afford to worship the god of hate or bow before the altar of retaliation. Martin Luther King Jr.
by fairleft on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 01:09:55 AM EST
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Re: Rezmar and Rezko were Obama clients (none / 0)

Fine.

As long as you're agreeing that Hillary Clinton knew about her brother selling access to the President, Bill's affairs, that she was, in fact, getting sweetheart deals from Jim McDougall and the futures broker, and that she is, in fact, hiding something by not releasing the names of the library donors.

All of which is far more likely than the the notion that, as a junior associate, Obama knew about every detail of every deal being conducted by one partner in a company that had retained his lawfirm.

And, of course, the eminently logical proposition underlying this absurd diary, that he knew in detail that among the hundreds of city block that made up his State Senate district, that eleven buildings owned by a company owned by a friend were substandard. But Hillary didn't know her brothers were taking bribes to get things from her husband.


by BlueinColorado on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 01:46:16 AM EST
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Re: Rezmar and Rezko were Obama clients (none / 0)

Dude, you forgot to mention the cocain shipments through the Mena airfield. And how about those missing 'W's?


by souvarine on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 04:07:35 AM EST
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Re: Rezmar and Rezko were Obama clients (none / 0)

Like I said, name one thing I did list that didn't happen.


by BlueinColorado on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 10:54:35 AM EST
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Re: Rezmar and Rezko were Obama clients (none / 0)

still waiting....


by BlueinColorado on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 03:43:32 PM EST
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Re: Rezmar and Rezko were Obama clients (none / 0)

Keep waiting, I don't indulge Republican trolls.


by souvarine on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 08:49:07 PM EST
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Re: Rezmar and Rezko were Obama clients (none / 0)

Well, not a very gracious concession, but I'll accept.

Fortunately, the voters of New York don't seem to mind, and the Clintons will soon be finished as national political figures. So it's all academic.


by BlueinColorado on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 10:53:32 PM EST
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The hyenas are laughing and cackling (none / 0)

to each other in the night.  The mighty lion hears them and is aware of them, but gives them no great heed.  The role of the hyena and the jackal in the grand scheme of the veldt is that of the scavenger, the gnawer of bones, the devourer of rotting carrion.


by ReillyDiefenbach on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:54:52 AM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (2.00 / 2)

Obama's letters for Rezko


by truthteller2007 on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 07:38:27 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (2.00 / 1)

I hope you'll accept Obama's hometown paper as proof. They know him best, they have been investigating him for years, while the national press just fawns over him.

Open your eyes and smell the corruption, cronyism, and incompetence. Haven't we had enough of these deadly sins from the current occupant of the White House? We don't need a 3rd Bush term with Obama.

There is plenty more for you over on the Sun Times site, unless you don't want to know the truth. Better to find out now than wait for the Republicans to rub our noses in it during the general.

Obama and his Rezko ties
DAY ONE OF TWO

April 23, 2007
BY TIM NOVAK Staff Reporter/tnovak@suntimes.com

For more than five weeks during the brutal winter of 1997, tenants shivered without heat in a government-subsidized apartment building on Chicago's South Side.

It was just four years after the landlords -- Antoin "Tony'' Rezko and his partner Daniel Mahru -- had rehabbed the 31-unit building in Englewood with a loan from Chicago taxpayers.

It was just four years after the landlords -- Antoin "Tony'' Rezko and his partner Daniel Mahru -- had rehabbed the 31-unit building in Englewood with a loan from Chicago taxpayers.

Rezko and Mahru couldn't find money to get the heat back on.

Rezko and Mahru couldn't find money to get the heat back on.

But their company, Rezmar Corp., did come up with $1,000 to give to the political campaign fund of Barack Obama, the newly elected state senator whose district included the unheated building.

Obama has been friends with Rezko for 17 years. Rezko has been a political patron to Obama and many others, helping to raise millions of dollars for them through his own contributions and by hosting fund-raisers in his home.

Obama, who has worked as a lawyer and a legislator to improve living conditions for the poor, took campaign donations from Rezko even as Rezko's low-income housing empire was collapsing, leaving many African-American families in buildings riddled with problems -- including squalid living conditions, vacant apartments, lack of heat, squatters and drug dealers.

The building in Englewood was one of 30 Rezmar rehabbed in a series of troubled deals largely financed by taxpayers. Every project ran into financial difficulty. More than half went into foreclosure, a Chicago Sun-Times investigation has found.

"Their buildings were falling apart,'' said a former city official. "They just didn't pay attention to the condition of these buildings.''

Eleven of Rezko's buildings were in Obama's state Senate district.

Obama, now a U.S. senator running for president, has come under fire over his friendship with Rezko, who was charged last fall with demanding kickbacks on state business deals under Gov. Blagojevich.

Much of the criticism has centered on two real estate deals involving Obama's South Side mansion. In the first, Obama paid $300,000 less than the asking price for a doctor's home, while Rezko's wife paid the doctor full price for the vacant lot next door. Then -- a few months before Rezko was indicted -- Obama bought part of that lot from Rezko's wife.

But Obama's ties with Rezko go beyond those two real estate sales and the political support, the Sun-Times found. Obama was an attorney with a small Chicago law firm -- Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland -- that helped Rezmar get more than $43 million in government funding to rehab 15 of their 30 apartment buildings for the poor.
Obama role unclear
Just what legal work -- and how much -- Obama did on those deals is unknown. His campaign staff acknowledges he worked on some of them. But the Rezmar-related work amounted to just five hours over the six years it said Obama was affiliated with the law firm, the staff said in an e-mail in February.

Obama, however, was associated with the firm for more than nine years, his staff acknowledged Sunday in an e-mail response to questions submitted March 14 by the Sun-Times. They didn't say what deals he worked on -- or how much work he did.

"The senator, relatively inexperienced in this kind of work, was assigned to tasks appropriate for a junior lawyer,'' according to an e-mail from Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs. "These tasks would have included reviewing documents, collecting corporate organizational documents, and drafting corporate resolutions.''

In fact, Gibbs wrote, "Senator Obama does not remember having conversations with Tony Rezko about properties that he owned or any specific issues related to those properties.''

Rezko and Mahru had no construction experience when they created Rezmar in 1989 to rehabilitate apartments for the poor under the Daley administration. Between 1989 and 1998, Rezmar made deals to rehab 30 buildings, a total of 1,025 apartments. The last 15 buildings involved Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland during Obama's time with the firm.

Rezko and Mahru also managed the buildings, which were supposed to provide homes for poor people for 30 years. Every one of the projects ran into trouble:

*                         Seventeen buildings -- many beset with code violations, including a lack of heat -- ended up in foreclosure.

*Six buildings are currently boarded up.

*Hundreds of the apartments are vacant, in need of major repairs.

*Taxpayers have been stuck with millions in unpaid loans.

*At least a dozen times, the city of Chicago sued Rezmar for failure to heat buildings.

For five weeks, the Sun-Times sought to interview Obama about Rezko and the housing deals. His staff wanted written questions. It responded Sunday but left many questions unanswered. Other answers didn't directly address the question.

Among these: When did Obama learn of Rezmar's financial problems? "The senator had no special knowledge of any financial problems,'' Gibbs wrote.

Did the senator ever complain to anyone -- government officials, Rezmar or Rezko -- about the conditions of Rezmar's buildings? "Senator Obama did follow up on constituency complaints about housing as [a] matter of routine,'' Gibbs wrote.

Did the senator ever discuss Rezmar's financial problems with anyone at his law firm? "The firm advises us that it [is] unaware of any such conversations,'' Gibbs wrote.

Read the rest here:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/35382 9,CST-NWS-rez23.article


by BluestBlue on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 11:17:09 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (2.00 / 9)

11 buildings out of the 30 projects within his own district.  He should make it his job to know what's going on within his own district.  Especially when these were the projects that he endorsed.


by JoeySky18 on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:26:08 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (none / 0)

Agreed. It convinced me that this poster is very good at producing smears with lot's of pictures that look convincing from far away but once you actually start thinking about what is said... Well, I guess you are not supposed to do that!


by marcotom on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:26:11 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (2.00 / 5)

This is not a smear.  It's a fact.  Take a look at the map.


by JoeySky18 on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:37:48 PM EST
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facts about Obama (2.00 / 1)

often are smearing, sometimes a smear is also a truth. At least he hasn't blamed Hillary, yet, for making him be friends with Tony.  


by anna shane on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:44:38 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (2.00 / 6)

Hmmm.... friends with the guy that he helped get the money to do the rehab and he doesn't know what is happening? Sounds like an awfully convenient lapse of memory to me.

Doesn't Obama always talk about how great of a community organizer he was. Isn't paying attention to one's community what community organizers do? Isn't that what State Senators are supposed to do too? Look out for the best interests of their constituency?

Or maybe just not this one?


by Fleaflicker on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:36:33 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (none / 0)

Property complaints go to the alderman. If Obama heard any complaints, he would have acted on them. He didn't.

There is no proof that he knew about these 11 buildings. There is no there there.

How many other crimes were committed in Obama's district when he was a State Senator? Why wasn't he out there policing his streets, just like a good community organizer would? Oh yeah... he was working on some 4,000 odd bits of legislation.


unapologetic Obama supporter
by dantes on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:46:29 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (2.00 / 4)

he claimed it was "possible" he knew of Rezko's real estate problems when interviewed by the Chicago newspapers.

And you believe this is someone who could be trusted?  Or is it "possible" that Obama is trustworthy?


by truthteller2007 on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:49:43 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (none / 0)

Let's talk about what we're looking at here.

1. There are problems on the South Side of Chicago. I'm a student living in Hyde Park right now, one of the nicer parts of the South Side, but it's true that we have some lousy landlords, some questionable buildings, and more than a few social issues.

But to suggest that Obama is somehow responsible for the problems of the South Side is somewhere between ridiculous and patently offensive. Problems in this area go way, way back, and no one here expects any single politician to fix every issue we face here.

2. Rezko is a pretty scummy character, and it was a mistake for Obama to ever associate with him. That said, there's no evidence, or even decent circumstantial evidence, to suggest any corruption or wrongdoing on Obama's part.

If you've ever been here - and I'm dubious that Susan Hu spends much time on the South Side of Chicago - you know that we have a lot of crappy buildings, landlords, etc. We've also got our fair share of crime, employment and economic issues, drug use... I'd be frankly shocked if a state senator was aware of the status of 11 buildings in the district. Seriously, we have thousands of buildings here, hundreds of which have moderate-to-serious problems.

So, to summarize the story, here's the charge: Eleven buildings managed by Rezko in Obama's district had moderate-to-serious problems. Among the thousands of buildings in Obama's district, and hundreds with moderate-to-serious problems, Obama may have received a constituent letter about one of these properties. If he did, then he either didn't read it or didn't give it special attention out of the thousands of other concerns, letters, and obligations he dealt with.

And this is the worst thing Obama has ever done. Failed to show superhuman capacity in being incredibly aware of each and every building in his district.


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by jaiwithani on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:28:43 AM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (none / 0)

I also reside in Hyde Park, and I understand Obama failed to represent his constituents.  


by truthteller2007 on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 01:06:43 PM EST
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Really? (none / 0)

Because you're in the minority here. Look outside - most of the people here are pretty thrilled about Obama.


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by jaiwithani on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 06:51:14 PM EST
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Property complaints go to any politician you think (2.00 / 1)

or hope will listen, and I bet many hoped their young and 'idealistic' state senator would listen. And state funds are all over these projects, so Obama had a responsibility to see that Illinois taxpayer money -- for something exceptionally important like poverty housing -- wasn't being thrown down a hellhole.


We can no longer afford to worship the god of hate or bow before the altar of retaliation. Martin Luther King Jr.
by fairleft on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 10:48:04 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (2.00 / 1)

Then why does he refuse to talk to the Chicago Sun Times? He could quickly clear it up.

Why does he refuse to release his state legislative records? He could clear this up.

Why does he refuse to release the records of what he worked on as a lawyer in a firm that did business with Rezko?

We were stonewalled 8 years ago, you can see the results today: our economy in shambles, our constitution in shambles. This is not amateur hour.  There is too much at stake.


by BluestBlue on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 11:20:58 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (2.00 / 4)

Today's Sun-Times:

Rezko, 52, of Wilmette, is accused of using his influence in Blagojevich's administration to appoint members to state boards and allegedly steer important votes. Rezko profited off various deals or directed donations to his favorite candidates, including Gov. Blagojevich and U.S. Sen. Barack Obama, prosecutors charge.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/rezko /838705,rezko031208.article


by susanhu on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:46:53 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (2.00 / 2)

the last phrase -- "prosecutors charge" -- is kind of important.


by susanhu on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:47:15 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District (none / 0)

Ken Starr "charged" a great many things. Dick Armey made a great many "charges". So did Orrin Hatch and Trent Lott and Al d'Amato and Henry Hyde and Lindsey Graham......

Of course to people like that, and people like you, words like "charge" "accuse" are more important than words like "prove" or "fact".

Nice company you keep while flailing away on behalf of an already failed campaign.


by BlueinColorado on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:50:40 PM EST
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That Rezko influenced appointments (2.00 / 0)

That Rezko influenced appointments to state boards is not exactly controversial or tenuous. That Obama assisted him in his efforts -- perhaps naively or 'see-no-evilly' -- is nearly as uncontroversial.


We can no longer afford to worship the god of hate or bow before the altar of retaliation. Martin Luther King Jr.
by fairleft on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 10:50:30 PM EST
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Patrick Fitzgerald is no Ken Starr. If he says there is smoke, count on there being fire.

Ken Starr was a party hack, doing the republican's bidding. $70M+ and no wrong doing by the Clintons. What a waste of taxpayers money.


by BluestBlue on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 11:22:59 PM EST
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Couldn't agree more about Fitzgerald.

If he says there is smoke, count on there being fire.

All of the "evidence" pointed to by the hysterical Rezko-floggers on this site is more than a year old. If Fitzgerald had evidence of wrong-doing, not the lazy innuendo of the MyDD Obsessive brigades, don't you think he might have done something about it by now?


by BlueinColorado on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 02:00:29 AM EST
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Given how long we all had to wait for Fitzmas, no I don't think Fitzgerald might have done something about it by now.


by souvarine on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 04:12:25 AM EST
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nice strawman (2.00 / 2)

we are not talking about all of Chicago.  We are talking about one state senate district.  Knowing about and fixing these sorts of problems is exactly what a state senator would be responsible for.


DON'T COUNT THE VOTES, DON'T COUNT THE VOTES.... Obama and the Obamaettes... spring 2008
by TeresaINPennsylvania on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 09:49:21 AM EST
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BE SURE to watch the second video I added.  It is utterly shocking.  And it comes from the Chicago NBC affiliate.  

The first one is powerful but I don't know who did it.


by susanhu on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:58:13 PM EST
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You are an awesome researcher Susan (2.00 / 8)

Thanks for this post


I didn't believe in god before the primaries and I still don't.
by NewHampster on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:08:36 PM EST

Re: You are an awesome researcher Susan (2.00 / 5)

Thanks, NH.  

See also this 2007 list of questions from the Sun-Times about the Rezko properties:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/35378 6,CST-NWS-rezquestions23.article


by susanhu on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:10:52 PM EST
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Re: You are an awesome researcher Susan (2.00 / 3)

I totally agree. Susan ROCKS!


by Fleaflicker on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:38:44 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's... (2.00 / 6)

Very good diary. Rec'd.


Grumpy, reluctant, sore-losing, unhappy, irritable Hillary supporter for Barack Obama 2008
by DemAC on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:10:43 PM EST

Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District Wa (2.00 / 3)

Great diary. I'm sure it is going to be on the rec' list in ten seconds to feed the other hungry Obama haters.

Not that you have any evidence against him, really. But that never really bothered you before, so I'm not going to try to bring you to reason. Springfield , Illinois is not a suburb of Chicago and quite obviously a State Senator is not really the first person you would talk to if your heating is not okay, but who cares? Smears are fun!


by marcotom on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:18:50 PM EST

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Yep. Obama had nothing to do with getting Rezko the contract. Nope, nothing at all.


by Fleaflicker on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:39:52 PM EST
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Marcotom, I don't hate Obama as a person.  I have every respect to him as a fellow human being.  But I don't believe that he is qualified to be our president.  His records speak loud and clear.


by JoeySky18 on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:45:37 PM EST
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We don't hate Obama (2.00 / 3)

but we do doubt his narrative and we would like the truth to come out before the nomination process comes to an end.  


by anna shane on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:46:20 PM EST
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hate Obama? (2.00 / 1)

how can anyone hate the Messiah?


DON'T COUNT THE VOTES, DON'T COUNT THE VOTES.... Obama and the Obamaettes... spring 2008
by TeresaINPennsylvania on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 09:51:03 AM EST
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11 out of thousands of buildings... jeez, amazing that he wasn't right on top of this problem.

/geez

/you're floundering here


by Cycloptichorn on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:21:24 PM EST

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check the map. There are 30 buildings in total.  18 buildings are not in working condition.  Only 12 buildings are in operation.


by JoeySky18 on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:36:06 PM EST
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There are 30 Rezmar buildings in total.  Not 30 buildings in total.  


by Brillobreaks on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:07:36 PM EST
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How Many Buildings in the District? (none / 0)

The census bureau should have the info.


by Brillobreaks on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:28:39 PM EST

I take him at his word (2.00 / 7)

which is more disturbing.  This isn't some insanely large congressional district, but a state senate district.  How on earth could you not be aware of this sort of thing in a district like this.


by linc on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:37:08 PM EST

Re: I take him at his word (none / 0)

yeah, all 11 buildings in the district were affected and he didn't know about it! shameful!


by marcotom on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:05:18 PM EST
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whats worse (2.00 / 2)

no making it his business to know?  Taking favors from a slumlord?  or knowing and not caring? They all seem awful to me, rather cynical actually.  


by anna shane on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:47:54 PM EST
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Re: I take him at his word (2.00 / 1)

Of course he was aware.  If he was not then he is too much of a lazy fuck up to be our nominee.  Knowing and taking care of these sorts of problems is the job of a state rep.

There seems to be a pattern here of him always being too busy running for the next job to do the one he is being paid for.

Compare that to Clinton's amazing work ethic and you can see that Obama voters are being bamboozled.


DON'T COUNT THE VOTES, DON'T COUNT THE VOTES.... Obama and the Obamaettes... spring 2008
by TeresaINPennsylvania on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 09:54:35 AM EST
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Well Done, Susan (2.00 / 8)

Great diary as usual!  Ignore those that can't look past the rhetoric, and simply don't want to be dragged out of the den of hopium.


by izarradar on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:37:51 PM EST

Re: Well Done, Susan (none / 0)

as an Obama supporter, I disagree with your comment, but "den of hopium" is pretty darn funny.


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 12:35:24 AM EST
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High-larious. (none / 0)

sorry. i couldn't resist. Den of Hopium is too good.


by hctb on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 02:32:05 AM EST
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ROFL (none / 0)

the den of hopium... I love it.  Can I use it?


DON'T COUNT THE VOTES, DON'T COUNT THE VOTES.... Obama and the Obamaettes... spring 2008
by TeresaINPennsylvania on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 09:56:35 AM EST
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Hear no evil, see no evil? (2.00 / 4)

What is it with this guy?  What else doesn't he know.  I suspect what he doesn't know would fill volumes.


by Tolstoy on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:39:28 PM EST

why should he trouble his beautiful mind? (2.00 / 1)

he has better things to do, like run for his next job and you know, raising money is hard work.


DON'T COUNT THE VOTES, DON'T COUNT THE VOTES.... Obama and the Obamaettes... spring 2008
by TeresaINPennsylvania on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 09:58:11 AM EST
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The wisdom of the East, and of Chicago politics (none / 0)

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We can no longer afford to worship the god of hate or bow before the altar of retaliation. Martin Luther King Jr.
by fairleft on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 02:41:14 PM EST
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Proof alright! (2.00 / 7)

Yikes--If this is the way he lets a neighborhood go, how could he possibly run a whole country???  The prospect is frightening.


by The Smoldering Crone on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:44:17 PM EST

An extremely apt handle (none / 0)

I must say.


by ReillyDiefenbach on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:56:45 AM EST
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Susanhu, why do this? Are you implying that Obama purposely ignored those buildings? Are you saying Obama's on the take? What does this kind of post do to help Hillary win the nomination?


by hnic357 on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:45:05 PM EST

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It's an attempt to torpedo Obama's GE chances so Hillary can run again in 2012, since she really has no realistic chance of being the nominee this year.


NJ Hussein Independent
by NJIndependent on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:51:17 PM EST
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which explanation do you prefer (2.00 / 3)

he was inattentive? He didn't do his work? He was on the take (unproven, but a definite maybe?) Ii don't see any way Obama comes out of these facts clean, he's either stupid, lazy or corrupt, which do you prefer?  


by anna shane on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 06:01:13 PM EST
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Clinton will be the nominee (2.00 / 1)

no doubt about it. Come out of the den of hopium and let the sunshine help you see the facts.


DON'T COUNT THE VOTES, DON'T COUNT THE VOTES.... Obama and the Obamaettes... spring 2008
by TeresaINPennsylvania on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 09:59:46 AM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District Wa (2.00 / 5)

He may or may not ignored those buildings intentionally.  We would have to take his words for it, he said "he didn't know".  

But it shows that he's not on top of what's going on within his own district.  Out of 30 buildings, only 12 are in working condition.  He should be alarmed.  Especially when these are the projects that he wrote the letter to support because it helped create housing for poor people.    


by JoeySky18 on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:52:12 PM EST
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He wrote the letters in order to increase the profits of Rezko and of his associates at the Davis Law Firm in Chicago, Illinois.


by truthteller2007 on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:53:12 PM EST
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She does this because of her intense hatred for anything Obama. It doesn't matter what he says or does... he will alwasy be a lying, cheating, mob-connected, terrorist-loving, misogynist crook.


unapologetic Obama supporter
by dantes on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:05:15 PM EST
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According to CBS News Chicago, Obama has a predilection for lying.


by truthteller2007 on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:08:03 PM EST
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That article doesn't say he had a predilection for lying. It says:

Still, a former Jesuit priest who hired Obama to work on the South Side said he has carefully read the senator's book, and believes Obama's account.

"I discussed every item of this," said Greg Golluzzo of the Gamaliel Foundation. "Barack was working his tail off. Barack was in the community. There's many young men who go to colleges who wouldn't even have the guts to walk around Altgeld Gardens. Barack was there, in the community, talking to the people, sensing their passion, their anger and he wanted to create an opportunity for them to express that anger and resolve the problem."

That article mentions a claim (not proof) that Obama didn't clean up asbestos, that it was some other environmental hazard and that he misrepresented what happened in an incident with Altgeld Gardens residents beating the car of a government official.

As for the pay bit, Obama has produced an explanation.

So, the article really doesn't say much about Obama lying. It says that "one resident who worked with Obama back then is unhappy with the senator's recollection."

Well. Obviously he's a lier and unfit to be president, then.


"Don't let it end this way; tell them I said something." -the last words of Pancho Villa
by shef on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 07:20:09 PM EST
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Not so much

Still, a former Jesuit priest who hired Obama to work on the South Side said he has carefully read the senator's book, and believes Obama's account.

"I discussed every item of this," said Greg Golluzzo of the Gamaliel Foundation. "Barack was working his tail off. Barack was in the community. There's many young men who go to colleges who wouldn't even have the guts to walk around Altgeld Gardens. Barack was there, in the community, talking to the people, sensing their passion, their anger and he wanted to create an opportunity for them to express that anger and resolve the problem."


by JoeCoaster on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 09:37:30 PM EST
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Obama unfortunately has a propensity for lying (and it is not like the Rethugs haven't found out about it.)

Remember Obama's old lies about his strongest foreign policy experience being him growing up in Indonesia?

Transcript from Nightline Nov 26th in 2007:

TERRY MORAN: So let's talk about experience, which you talk about a lot. You said recently that the strongest experience you have in foreign relations is that you grew up for four years as a child in Southeast Asia.

SEN. BARACK OBAMA: Well, that's not exactly what I said. What I said was I think one of the things that sets me apart is that I spent time in other countries.


Well, sorry, that is exactly what Obama said.

Remember when the Obama campaign worked for weeks on a foreign policy speech? The campaign then publicized the finished speech as a major event because they were trying to get away from a previous Obama blunder, you know the one regarding unconditional meetings with rogue world leaders. Anyway, the Obama campaign proudly and prominently placed their big foreign policy speech on the Obama campaign website.

If you remember (I sure do anyway) Obama's speech went off like an O-bomb-A. The Chicago Sun-Times not only published the speech, they also published the accompanying "Fact Sheet" distributed by the Obama campaign. The Fact Sheet and speech transcript were labeled repeatedly as "Paid for by Obama for America". Obama's remarks in that bomb of a speech (which appeared to call for an invasion or at least attack inside Pakistan, if you recall) were not off-the-cuff remarks. Obama's speech was worked on and massaged for weeks before he delivered it. The Obama campaign not only provided transcripts of the carefully crafted speech but it also distributed a "Fact Sheet" to supplement the speech. In the transcript of the speech however, the Fact Sheet about the speech and the actual delivery of the speech the ugly paragraph about Pakistan was included.

From the "Fact Sheet" the following deserves to be highlighted:

In addition, if the United States has actionable intelligence about high value terrorist targets and Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf will not act on it, an Obama Administration will. Obama also will increase aid to Pakistan for development and secular education to counter extremists. Paid for by Obama for America

The clear implication by the speech was
*    that Obama would attack inside Pakistan if need be and rub President Musharraf's nose in this action; and
*    an implicit threat to remove Musharraf and redesign Pakistan's government. President Musharraf clearly read the Obama speech. Musharraf saw the threat aimed at him directly, and he reacted. Obama recklessly provided Musharraf with a fig-leaf reason to impose the Pakistani State of Emergency.

Obama, now confronted by harsh reality and by most of the other Democratic candidates running for president decided to lie and defame and distort. In the August debate Obama lied directly to Chris Dodd's face. Says MSNBC:

The biggest point of contention in the debate last night came stemmed from an argument Obama made recently -- the idea that he would take action against Al-Qaeda in Pakistan, if that country's leadership won't act. Several candidates criticized Obama on that point... and the fiercest exchange was over what Obama said in his recent speech.

Dodd: "If you're making a mistake today, you ought to stand up and say so. It was a mistake in my view to suggest somehow that going in unilaterally here, into Pakistan, was somehow in our interest." Obama replied: "I did not say that we would immediately go in unilaterally. What I said was that we have to work with Musharraf."

Only that Dodd was correct about what Obama said... Obama did never say he would work with Musharraf.

So you see, it is really not strange that Obama is perceived as lying. You see, that is because he lies.


Grumpy, reluctant, sore-losing, unhappy, irritable Hillary supporter for Barack Obama 2008
by DemAC on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:47:12 PM EST
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That's one of his interview/debate problems (2.00 / 3)

When confronted with a difficult fact, he just lies.  And it's really amazing that our press has been so somnolent about it.

There are two examples in your piece, one an interview, the other a debate.  I'll give you a couple more.

At the New Hampshire debate, Hillary stated, correctly, that Obama's NH campaign chair was a registered lobbyist.  Obama interrupted her, saying "That's just not so."  It was a lie.  Obama's NH campaign chair was registered with the state of NH as a lobbyist.

At the SC debate, Hillary stated that Obama had once been in favor of implementing single-payer health care.  Obama replied that he had never been in favor of single-payer.  It was a lie.  The next day, the Clinton campaign circulated a YouTube film where Obama spoke clearly and strongly in favor of implementing single-payer.

In both cases, Obama created the appearance that Clinton had lied about him to feed an attack, but in both cases, he was the one who was lying.  And it really does appear to be his reflexive response to getting caught out on something in public.

Four instances makes a pattern.  And God knows there are more than these.


by Trickster on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 08:15:44 PM EST
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got facts? (2.00 / 1)

or just personal attacks?  Can you refute anything in the diary?  Nope, didn't think so.


DON'T COUNT THE VOTES, DON'T COUNT THE VOTES.... Obama and the Obamaettes... spring 2008
by TeresaINPennsylvania on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 10:02:30 AM EST
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infer for yourself (2.00 / 3)

what's the good inference, he didn't bother to find out, he didn't care, or he was cynical and pocketed money at the expense of the poor. You choose, Susan just give the facts, just the facts madam.  


by anna shane on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:49:34 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District Wa (2.00 / 4)

Similar to Michelle Obama, Barack Obama is woefully out of touch with ordinary Americans, especially the poorer African-Americans who reside in his former state Senate district.  And notice how Michelle Obama attended a fashion show coordinated by Rezko after the slumlord who failed to provide heat to Obama's poor African-American constituents was indicted.  At least Barack obtained the mansion with multiple fireplaces, and at least the upwardly mobile Michelle had a chance to feel fashionable.  But those who truly mattered were left to freeze in the cold.


by truthteller2007 on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 04:48:10 PM EST

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Yep - all that work as a community organiser left him really out of touch with the ordinary folks.


by interestedbystander on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:06:07 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District Wa (2.00 / 3)

Obama exaggerated his accomplishments as a community organizer.


by truthteller2007 on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:07:18 PM EST
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OMG that article is devastating - it was fibre glass not asbestos he helped cleared up.  He is certainly not fit to be president.  Thank god we have Hillary who has never, ever exaggerated her foreign policy experience.


by interestedbystander on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:11:58 PM EST
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Obama also lied about his service to REzko during the South Carolina debate.  


by truthteller2007 on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:13:23 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District Wa (2.00 / 2)

Obama also lied about his salary and about an incident he claimed occurred in Altgeld Gardens.  In fact, one resident of Altgeld Gardens decries Obama's portrayal of that community's residents as "barbaric."  Not only did Obama inflate his resume and lie about his salary; he utilized racist language when describing he African-American residents of Altgeld Gardens.


by truthteller2007 on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:16:00 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District Wa (none / 0)

I hope people will actually read the article and not listen to your out of context bullshit.


by Brillobreaks on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 05:17:34 PM EST
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Re: Irrefutable Proof That Obama's Own District Wa (2.00 / 1)

I invite them to read the article, for it documents at least three lies of Barack Obama, who inflates his resume, characterizes African-Americans as "barbaric," and decreases his salary in order to disguise the fact that he and his wife are beholden to powerful slumlords who buy them mansions.


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