This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten people Barack Obama doesn't know)

[PART II of my post refers to Obama's absence on February 23, 2008 from the national black conference in New Orleans, and who DID show up.]

Paul Burka, "senior executive editor of Texas Monthly, argues that the damage to Obama from Wright's words is irreparable" (via Howie Kurtz's column, Washington Post, March 18, 2008):

"A candidate for president of the United States cannot cozy up to someone with this kind of anti-American rhetoric. He has lost Main Street white America. Is anyone going to believe that he didn't know about Wright's views? Is anyone going to accept as an explanation that he wasn't in attendance when these things were said? He'll get clobbered in Pennsylvania, clobbered in Indiana, clobbered in Kentucky.

"This isn't about white racism. It's about Wright racism.

"I thought that Obama was exempt from racial reactions because he was the Tiger Woods of politics. People looked at him and saw him not as someone who is black, but as someone who transcended race because of his unique skills and accomplishments. Not any more. He just triple bogeyed the presidency. He's done."

In We Are the Ones, I talked about the people of "Main Street."  Because I know those people.  They live all around me.  

Let me also mention one other group of people.  Those are the "forgotten people":

They are the forgotten people who lived in the disgusting conditions that Barack Obama knew about, but did nothing about, because the buildings were financed and allowed to go to ruin by his "political fixer" and campaign financier Tony Rezko:

From my story, "The Forgotten People":

... Tenants were left without heat for five weeks

... A family "boiled water on the stove and draped plastic sheeting across the windows in an effort to keep warm during the city's bitter winters, as the heating was not working."

... There was drug selling and prostitution.

... The buildings were filthy and rat- and roach-infested.

... There was urine and feces all around.

... Rubbish piled up uncollected.

... Repeated requests for basic repairs were ignored.

... There were drug dealers all around.

.... People were fighting and getting shot.

... Tenants had to call the city just to get the garbage collected because Rezko and his company ignored their requests for help.

... Rezko moved on -- turning away from the TAXPAYER-FUNDED "rehab" projects (he got over $100 million) and all of its tenants -- with many buildings boarded up as bills and mortgage payments went unpaid, and Rezko going into the fast-food business.

... And Sen. Barack Obama turned a blind eye.

Instead of calling Tony Rezko and telling him to get his ass moving to clean up his properties and make them safe and inhabitable, Barack Obama called Tony Rezko to get him to help finance the purchase of a $1.65 million mansion. ...

Be sure to let me know if and when Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews or Tim Russert ever talk about the "forgotten people."

I'm not holding my breath.

:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::

PART II: One Must Show Up to Heal Racial Divides:

While Barack Obama has dodged and weaved his way through the the politics of race -- pretending he never heard the hate-filled, anti-Christian, racist remarks of his pastor for 20 years -- Hillary Clinton has actively sought out African Americans:

LOOK at who shows up. From my February 23, 2008 story, "This is Ignore-The-Blacks "Shrub" Behavior, Barack":

You'll recall how, for years, President Bush has "shined on" invitations to speak at the annual NAACP convention, only this last year finally addressing the hugely influential, historic national organization.  Now Barack Obama is "shining on" the national "State of the Black Union" founded by Tavis Smiley, and being carried LIVE on C-Span today.  It is not insignificant that Smiley chose New Orleans for his annual gathering.

Who is the ONLY candidate -- Republican or Democrat -- who accepted Smiley's invitation?  Hillary Rodham Clinton, who speaks live to the group in a few hours, reports CNN. ...

... I'm listening now, and it's truly fascinating -- they just introduced major Hollywood director Jonathan Demme.)  Barack Obama? CNN reports that Obama declined and offered to send Michelle, but Smiley told him that sending a surrogate is not enough and turned him down.  Obama said he's too busy campaigning in Texas and Ohio to bother with the national convention on black issues.  That "bamboozler."

CNN International sums up the controversy in "Obama takes heat for skipping State of the Black Union":

STORY HIGHLIGHTS:

  • Sen. Hillary Clinton is the only major presidential candidate to accept invitation
  • Sen. Barack Obama told organizers he needed to focus on his campaign
  • Talk show host Tavis Smiley: It's a missed opportunity on Obama's part
  • Smiley tells Washington Post he's gotten angry e-mails, threats for criticizing Obama

By the way, Tavis Smiley has been subjected to extraordinary attacks and pressure for daring to support Sen. Hillary Clinton.  I read about it at MyDD, and am glad that CNN repeated the story today. ...

Read all of "This is Ignore-The-Blacks "Shrub" Behavior, Barack."



Display:


Re: This is for Main Street & the forgotten (1.80 / 10)

Tell us about the forgotten people in Rezko's boarded-up, foreclosed buildings.


by susanhu on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:39:27 AM EST

Re: This is for (2.00 / 6)

Oh yeah ... please tell me more about the "corporate culture rife with inside deals."

Please, tell me all about it, Mssrs. Obama and Rezko and Auchi.


by susanhu on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:44:45 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for (1.50 / 2)

Susan - this is even beyond your normal venom, becoming our version of Ann Coulter/Michelle Malkin, eh?   Well ... whatever makes you feel good, I guess.  

Possible to do a similar expose on Norman Hsu?  I want to make sure the McCain camp has talking points for both candidates/snark. It amazes how the chatter-heads distort Obama's position on Rezko, but do nothing to discuss Hsu, earmarks, tax returns and donors to the great WJC's library.   And you talk about ... I want to get this straight ... 'a culture rife with inside deals'?!?  
This is a guy who raised OVER 1 MILLION dollars for the Clinton campaign.  You certainly hear Wolfson and clown posse talking about  Rezko, you never hear Axelrod talk about Hsu.  


'The only people for me are the mad ones, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing ...'
by stryan on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 04:01:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for (2.00 / 1)

How much did Hsu donate to Obama's Hope Fund?


Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 05:00:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for (2.00 / 0)

By my count, roughly 7k, compared to Hillary's 23k direct, and over 850k raised as a Hillraiser.   A bit of a discrepancy, dont you think?  

We can lob grenades back and forth, but - in essence - we are tearing down our likely nominee.   I just dont know why we would want to do that ... unless that. is. the. point?


'The only people for me are the mad ones, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing ...'
by stryan on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 05:15:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for (2.00 / 1)

Don't forget, Mssrs. Hsu, Paul and Rich


Hillary Clinton is not a monster,....as far as I know.. We are all Hussein JUNIOR.. ///.. FEINGOLD/BOXER 2016
by Its Like Herding Cats on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 04:15:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Sorry, Susan... (2.00 / 7)

But I doubt we'll hear Obama say anything about the "forgotten people" from his Chicago days: the tenants who suffered in Rezko owned slums, the mentor(Alice Palmer) who introduced Obama to Chicago politics only for her seat to be stolen from her, the community activist groups that were so excited about Obama's promise in 1996... Then were sorely disappointed as he did NOTHING to help their communities. No, we won't hear any of that today... But I'm sure we'll get some nice-sounding empty platitudes.


Help Clintonistas for Obama help Democrats win! :-)
by atdleft on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:46:36 AM EST
[ Parent ]

He won't be able to promise anything that costs (2.00 / 2)

money.

As a newcomer, he doesn't have the political capital in Washington to propose things that will cost a lot of money like Hillary could. So, we will see more of what we saw in the past, which basically involved evicting people from their homes, to 'save them'.

I think the fact that Obama was so closely allied with a known slumlord tells us where he would go with that.

Not someplace we want to go because if you force people out of those buildings, nowhere else is available.

What we need are policies that will GET THOSE HOMES FIXED UP AND HEALTHY with a minimal disruption on people's lives (Hotels in places like Chicago are very expensive, and displacing people for months or years will effectively evict them just as much as really evicting them.)


Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Without a REAL committment to it, we WON'T win in November.
by architek on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:06:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: He won't be able to promise anything (2.00 / 1)

He doesn't have the enormous political opposition in Washington that Hillary Clinton does either. There are a large number of people who will oppose her simply because she's who she is.

Obama is far more likely to bring an actual electoral mandate (his EV ceiling is about 400; hers is a bit under 300), and he's bringing an amazing number of donors and grassroots organizers. No disrespect to the Clinton campaign, but there's no comparison.

That gives him an enormous amount of political capital.


by Texas Gray Wolf on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:47:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Maybe.. you obviously know more than I do.. (2.00 / 2)

But my gut feeling tells me that Clinton
would make a far better President.

Obama is clearly a very smart guy, but he's
not as honest as I would like, and after eight years of(an extremely DIShonest) Bush that is VERY important to me. I doubt if I am alone, either.

I don't think we need to settle for another fast talker, given Bush's extreme lack of popularity.


Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Without a REAL committment to it, we WON'T win in November.
by architek on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 06:40:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Sorry, Susan... (2.00 / 3)

Yep, I just listened and you were absoutely 100% correct!
by The Smoldering Crone on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:21:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Well, I knew it... (2.00 / 3)

And I'm not very happy now that I was right. Sure, Obama gave a "good speech" in that it sounded great and seemed like a lovely call for "healing" on race issues... If NOT seen in the context of what's really happening in regards to Rev. Wright and how the Obama campaign is constantly trying to make race a "wedge issue" in the primaries. If only Obama's actions can start matching his words...


Help Clintonistas for Obama help Democrats win! :-)
by atdleft on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:28:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Sanctimony, Melodrama, Stupidity (2.00 / 1)

It's all there in this post.


by cypruspoint on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:46:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (2.00 / 4)

I am deeply offended the way Obama is trying his hardest  Geraldine Ferraro to the America hating pastor.

It is just despicable.

I have no respect for that guy anymore.

Geraldine Ferraro is not a racist and is not Rev wright.

I am really upset.

That is a shameless politician.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:40:43 AM EST

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (2.00 / 3)

It's a cheap shot, and Jerome said on the front page, he's trying to put Clinton's supporters on the defensive.  Let's not fall for it, eh?


by susanhu on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:43:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (2.00 / 6)

This woman has been an icon for a lot of women and to see her compared to that pastor is just too much for me to take.

His campaign has maligned democratic icons who have been in the fore front of fighting for civil rights when he was no where to be found as " racist "

By trying to link Ferraro to that man he shows he clearly is not interested in unifying anyone.

That speech angered me even more.

Its just a pity what Ferraro is being dragged through


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:48:50 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (2.00 / 1)

Ferraro isn't being "dragged through" anything. That's playing the victim card at its lowest. She chose to make those remarks. She chose to keep making them. She chose to take them on right-wing talk radio. _Even if_ they were heartfelt and honest, once it was called to her attention that they were hurtful, race-baiting, played to the lowest common denominator, lowered the standard of debate, and that *her own candidate* rejected them, she should have stopped. She did not. No one is dragging her through the mud. She lept into it and is wallowing around in it. Geraldine Ferraro is not a victim here.
by Texas Gray Wolf on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:43:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (2.00 / 1)

Every time Obama needed to win a state with a heavy black population he dug up some utterance by a Clinton backer and then accuses her of racism.  

He never did settle up on "Hillary Clinton, D-Punjab", clearly a racist tactic.

He never did settle up on Donnie McClurkin, clearly a hate-spewing, bigoted tactic.

He never did own up to somehow turning the great Martin Luther King into Stokely ("Black Power")
Carmichael.

Yes, he's running a Bush type campaign: talking about unity but really preaching division, winning at all costs, and the use of hatred and and racial bigotry even through George's (see the flyers on McCain's adopted child left in SC church parking lots in 2000).


by David Kowalski on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 07:06:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (1.33 / 3)

You are a very sad, sad person.


by Spanky on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:49:41 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (2.00 / 1)

I think anyone who could possibly have heard him equating the two didn't hear the speech I heard.

He equated them only in terms of saying that he could have paved over it with a rejection and denouncement, just as Ferraro was paved over.

He didn't do that.

And he didn't equate the two either, in any way, shape, or form. You do yourself an disservice by insulting everyone's intelligence by trying to claim otherwise.


by Texas Gray Wolf on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:40:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (2.00 / 1)

Here we go again - I'm wonderful and not like those who don't confront these issues.
Jeeeez!

Obama's ego and arrogance are disgusting!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap_campaignplus/ 20080317/ap_ca/on_deadline_arrogance

We ALL know why he gave a speech today - CYA!

He could have denounced racism last year when his wife and Oprah were promoting THE ONE - the black one.


Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 05:07:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (1.00 / 2)

Since you're a fan of Ferraro you probably meant to call BHO a "shameless lucky to be black politician."   Don't forget how you and Ferraro believe that his success is due to his being black.  Apparently you have access to an alternative world where Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton were presidents.


--1jphusseinb-- she's not a monster, as far as I know--diplomat Sinbad, making the world safe--all bluster, no cattle--
by 1jpb on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:44:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]

watch it, buster (none / 0)

this calling racism is really quite ugly.  There are real issues in this diary about experience and about priorities, and there is no need to pretend that everyone who doubts Obama's sincerity and abilities is somehow a racist or agreed with known racists.  Gerry was wrong to say what she did, but I wouldn't have read about her comment if it hadn't been brought to my attention and vilified by the Obama campaign.  And now it's used to pretend we agree with what she said.  She did not understand why what she said was vulgar, and I don't think Obama explained to her, or why he could say something similar and it wasn't vulgar, but honest and uplifting. I am very sick of this racism stuff being bandied about as if it were a talking point and not something real. when black guys can get cabs as easily as white guys, when black guys are pulled over by cops no more than white guys, then maybe you can start to call out racism, if it pleases you, for now it's simply ugly and divisive. We need better police and cabs and schools, we need a level playing field.  You are not helping.  


by anna shane on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 06:29:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: watch it, buster (none / 0)

What are you talking about?

Are you saying the Ferraro comments are racist?

I didn't call anything racist.  I reiterated Ferraro's terminology.  

If you think her language was racist, then you have a problem with her, not me.  If you think her comments were foolish, then you have a problem with her, not me.  If you don't think her comments were racist or foolish, you don't have a problem with Ferraro or me.

In my opinion the chances of better cabs, schools, playing fields, etc will be lessened by the words of Ferraro and those who support her words.  On the other side, the BHO speech today is probably helpful.


--1jphusseinb-- she's not a monster, as far as I know--diplomat Sinbad, making the world safe--all bluster, no cattle--
by 1jpb on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 08:30:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (none / 0)

Actually roughly 2 years ago in an article Obama even says it is because of his race that he is where he is today. It seems hypocritical of him or his campaign to malign such a great woman like Geraldine Ferraro. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.


by navyvet48 on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 04:42:39 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (none / 0)

Link?

Quote?


--1jphusseinb-- she's not a monster, as far as I know--diplomat Sinbad, making the world safe--all bluster, no cattle--
by 1jpb on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 02:21:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You did have respect? (2.00 / 0)

Your comments never indicated as much.  I still have respect for Sen. Clinton, despite the way her campaign has been conducted.

But poor Geraldine Ferraro.  First, she has to deal with Jesse Jackson in 1984.  As she put it, "If Jesse Jackson were not black, he would not be in this race."  http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0 308/A_Ferraro_flashback.html

Then, she had to deal with people questioning her experience (5 years as a Congresswoman) during her debate with Bush, and she responded, "There's not only what is on your paper resume that makes you qualified to run for or to hold office. It's how you approach problems and what your values are."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geraldine_F erraro

Then, she had to deal with yet another black person who only was where he was because he was black (she keeps running into them!), who didn't have enough experience, and whose campaign was criticizing her not because of her comments, but because she was white.  

How can Obama compare his pastor to her?  After all, African-Americans never suffered the type of discrimination Geraldino Ferraro has suffered, and blacks certainly have no legitimate reasons to be angry with the American government.  

Heck, Rev. Wright wouldn't even be where he is if he wasn't black.  Just ask Gerry.      


John McCain: Healthcare for Kids? In America? No way
by bosdcla14 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 02:51:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: You did have respect? (none / 0)

Great compare, kudos.  


'The only people for me are the mad ones, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing ...'
by stryan on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 03:52:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (2.00 / 1)

And...you either have not read the text of the speech or are purposefully mischaracterizing it.  Par for the course in the rec diaries.


by rfahey22 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 03:42:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (2.00 / 3)

If he really want to help the poor black people in his community, he shouldn't let Rezko get away with $100 million and 40% unlivable housing project.


by JoeySky18 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:04:31 PM EST

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (2.00 / 0)

You're silly.


--1jphusseinb-- she's not a monster, as far as I know--diplomat Sinbad, making the world safe--all bluster, no cattle--
by 1jpb on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:45:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is fo (none / 0)

I dont know if this is what was ment but "main street voters" really is the issue here for BO and race.  And when is say main street voters i mean the tradiation middle american main street working class voters.  

And as i have written these are tough times for two parent working class families and IMHO they are tried of hearing about race and what to hear what BO and HRC will do to help them and their familes.  They dont want to lose their jobs and want to hear how they can send their kids to college so their childern will have a better life then them.

This is why the Wright issue is so bad for BO. These voters are sick of hearing about race or what needs to be done to address decades of racism and just what to hear about how they can protect and raise their families.  For many of these voters race is about PC and that just doesnt seem important to them.

BO needs to reach out to these voters and right now he is losing them.

david


by giusd on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:57:18 PM EST

Re: This is fo (none / 0)

did you listen to his speech?


by AllergicToBS on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:38:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (2.00 / 3)

I find this diary and comment really distasteful and totally disingenuous and misleading. I have really lost respect for the pro-hillary community on this site. Not for the candidate you all support but for the way you conduct yourselves. Say its worse for Hillary at dKos if you want,but I don't spend enough time there to judge.  Even if it is true, "two rights don't make a wrong," do they?


by AllergicToBS on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:37:39 PM EST

These folks... (2.00 / 2)

... have created a whole mini-industry fueled by hate.

You have to wonder when the author of the Bell Curve is more enlightened than the folks here who masquerade as Democrats:

Have I missed the competition?    [Charles Murray]

I read the various posts here on "The Corner," mostly pretty ho-hum or critical about Obama's speech. Then I figured I'd better read the text (I tried to find a video of it, but couldn't). I've just finished. Has any other major American politician ever made a speech on race that comes even close to this one? As far as I'm concerned, it is just plain flat out brilliant--rhetorically, but also in capturing a lot of nuance about race in America. It is so far above the standard we're used to from our pols.... But you know me. Starry-eyed Obama groupie.


What's the Point?
by Vermonter on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:46:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (none / 0)

"two rights don't make a wrong" clever phrase or typo? You be the judge.


by AllergicToBS on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 02:05:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (2.00 / 0)

What gets me is the wholesale dismissal of the speech, the oversimplifying, the taking items out of context -- the very real intellectual dishonesty and/or lack of interest in even one thing said in the speech.

You can't open a closed mind.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:49:08 PM EST

Lies and hatred (2.00 / 3)

this diary could have been written by pat Robertson or Sean Hannity.  It's that vile.


by bigdavefromqueens on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 02:04:42 PM EST

The Hillary Cultists (2.00 / 0)

They are what, 2-3% of the Hillary voters.  I have no problem with the other 97%.  It's these vile Kool Aid drinkers which are bothersome and loathsome.  


by bigdavefromqueens on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 02:06:20 PM EST

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (1.33 / 3)

What a hateful, vile woman you are. You ought to be ashamed at the kind of garbage you spread on the internet.


by amiches on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 02:07:42 PM EST

Can you go a single day w/o an attack diary? (2.00 / 1)

Jesus...you'd think Obama was the GOP nominee.


by jaywillie on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 02:17:34 PM EST

Re: Can you go a single day w/o an attack diary? (2.00 / 1)

You know I wonder if SusanHu would go after McCain with such veracity should Obama maintain his nomination.


Because I wont trade humanity for patriotism!
by Drewid on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 03:37:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Can you go a single day w/o an attack diary? (2.00 / 1)

Not a chance.  Until November, their very sanity depends on destroying his candidacy.


by rfahey22 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 03:44:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Obama's GE Problem. (2.00 / 1)

This is why I believe Obama is now unelectable.  He will never survive the GE.  Working class whites I just don't think will be happy with today's speech.  He only admits that race is a problem.  The issue is that working class whites view Wright as not a solution to racism, but part of the problem and now Obama is lumped in with that thought.

Hillary can still win this, no matter what Obama supporters and the MSM want us to believe.  She can win the pledged delegates still, but she needs to win by large, but possible margins.  The Wright disaster is exactly what can push her over the top and retake the delegate lead.  This and MONEY.  She is already up by 12 points in PA, let's now give her the funds to increase the lead to 20 and beyond.  With this story and a few more 3am phone call ads in PA, we will win back the White House!  I just donated $25.

DONATE TO HILLARY NOW

Click the link above and donate today!


by Scope441 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 03:05:15 PM EST

Re: Obama's GE Problem. (none / 0)

There have already been multiple polls putting her up by approximately 20 points in PA, so that's not new territory.

And, you better max out your credit card, HRC runs an expensive campaign.  It's not cheap to live the high life, e.g. the fancy hotels they used in Las Vegas added up quickly.  Also, it costs a lot to pay Penn to have an FU yelling match with Ickes.

Don't forget that her reelection cost $41 million to beat a weak competitor who spent less than $6 million in her blue state.

Max that card!!!


--1jphusseinb-- she's not a monster, as far as I know--diplomat Sinbad, making the world safe--all bluster, no cattle--
by 1jpb on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 03:25:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Obama's GE Problem. (none / 0)

She has to win at 65% margins ... will not happen.  


'The only people for me are the mad ones, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing ...'
by stryan on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 03:54:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for Main Street (2.00 / 0)

You have lost all perspective.  Obama is responsible for Rekzo's tennants?  By that measure, Clinton is responsible for the way Wal-Mart (mis)treats its workers.  

She she made a cyncial bet that voting for the war would prove how much of a hawk she was and would thereby improve her fortunes.  She has run a lousy, incompetent campaign.  She is dull, cautious and uninspiring.  You can't make up for those faults, so you spew forth this crap.  Sad.


by Daddy Warbucks on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 04:22:24 PM EST

Re: This is for Main Street (none / 0)

She's also apparently responsible for all the slums in New York.


by rfahey22 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 07:01:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (2.00 / 0)

My understand is that the ranting pastor was a vietnam veteran. Firstly he served so he has a right to critzice the country. I doubt if anyone of you did. Secondly he is angry cause he served- put his life on the line, came home and faced racism. He is bitter. It is understandble. Obama said that is a generational thing. He was right.

John McCain's advisor Hagee. His friend and supporter called the Catholics, ''son of whores''.
Unless he denounces, I will work every day till the general to spoil McCain's chances.


by ListenNOW on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 05:32:57 PM EST

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (none / 0)

You know, few people do take into account the fact that Wright is a vet.  I've met many that have unflattering things to say about this country, as a result of the way that they've been treated (the VA's are a national disgrace).


by rfahey22 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 07:03:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (none / 0)

Now let me address the VA. I will even give you a link to the article. One VA in Illinois is responsible for killing 11 veterans. The only Senator that I can find on record doing anything about it is Durbin. 1.1 million veterans, family and friends have spoke in Illinois in favor of mandated funding for the VA. Where is Obama absent from signing a resolution for the funding?
See www.offe2008.org. See Latest News. Also see who has signed the resolution in Illionois. Not Obama. Who has signed Senators Hillary Clinton and Charles Schumer of New York and quite a few prominent people but Obama.
by navyvet48 on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 04:50:42 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (none / 0)

If you think the VAs are a disgrace then get up and do something about. I am a 100% total and permanently disabled Navy veteran and I along with many other vets, friends and family are doing something about. I am currently speaking to American Legions and other organizations asking for their support. What are you doing?

By the way I would never stand on a pulpit dancing while emrgency personnel are digging through the rubble of 2 buildings trying to account for 3000 people that died there, nor would I stand on a pulpit yelling gd America.

If Wright is a Vietnam Vet, I'm certain he used his GI bill for part of his education....so look what his service gave him. And he is disrespectful enough to have done that!


by navyvet48 on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 04:56:27 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is for Main Street (and for the forgotten (none / 0)

BO rejects the controversial comments that have been recently revealed. Someone should tell him that the comments are controversial they are hateful and it would be better to reject all hate speech whether said by black or white or brown. But that would be taking a stand and BO never takes a stand, never stands for anything.

I thought his speech today was disgraceful.


by seattlegonz on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:39:08 AM EST


You are not logged in.

In order to post a comment, you must be logged in. If you have a member account, please log in to comment.

If not, you can make an account right here. It's quick and free.